Matt Cooper has been an attorney
for 26 years. He recently provided representation to a United States Service member, Sgt. James Hurley, in a
Federal Court action that lasted over five years. This action resulted in
amendments to the federal Servicemembers Civil Relief Act.
Hurley v Deutsche Bank, et al.
These amendments (known as the "Hurley Amendments") continue to affect every man and woman on active duty service in the
United States Military. Matt
memorialized this landmark legal conflict in a book entitled A Soldier’s
Home.
He currently represents a number of servicemembers in similar cases.
Matt also co-founded the
Servicemembers Civil Relief Act Foundation, Inc., (SCRA) a Non-Profit Public Charity
that is focused on assisting United States Servicemembers and their families
with their rights and protections under the Servicemembers Civil Relief
Act. Through the Foundation, Matt
pursued and partnered with Western Michigan University Cooley Law School to
produce the 2015 Michigan Revised Judge’s Guide to the Servicemembers Civil
Relief Act. The SCRA Foundation raised
funds and distributed Judge’s Guides to every federal, state and tribal Judge
throughout the State of Michigan. This
caught the attention of the Department of Army, who sought Matt’s assistance
and partnership with Army OneSource to develop and distribute Judge’s Guides in
every state.
How did you decide to
become a lawyer?
While
attending Western Michigan University, I worked for five years at Wickes Lumber
Company. I enjoyed higher education at
Western and I received a lot of personal satisfaction helping customers. Between desiring more education and helping
people, I thought a legal degree and becoming an attorney would fit well with
my ambitions.
Why did you choose to
represent Sergeant Hurley? Can you offer the basic details of the case?
While Sgt. James Hurley was in Iraq during President Bush’s surge in that war, Deutsche Bank,
Saxon Mortgage and their attorneys illegally foreclosed on his home. Hurley’s mother, wife and two small children
were displaced from their residence. The
bank not only illegally foreclosed on his home, but sold it to a bona fide
purchaser. Upon Sgt. Hurley’s return
from the war, he found another family living in his home; a home that he had
lived in and enjoyed for ten years. Sgt. Hurley was a man in his 40’s and had
developed quite a homestead. His home
was set high on a ridge along the Paw Paw River. It was a beautiful home and he had never
missed a payment. Sgt. Hurley’s home was illegally
taken from him; while he was away serving our country at war. Sgt.
Hurley’s home was near my law office.
One day he came to my office seeking to know if he had any rights relating
to his loss. At the time, I was not at all familiar with the Servicemembers
Civil Relief Act. However, I knew that
Sgt. Hurley had been wronged. I have always held the belief that there is a clear distinction between right and
wrong and that our justice system, on its best days, does attempt to achieve
justice and do what is right.
Your case involved
going against Deutsche Bank. What was that like?
It was
miserable. The case drug on for over
five years because Deutsche Bank could not allow the violations that they were
committing against thousands of soldiers to be disclosed. Unbeknownst to me, the United States
Department of Justice had been tracking me and this case for the last two years
of its progression through the court system.
Because of the Hurley case, the Department of Justice learned that these
Defendants were violating the rights of thousands of other soldiers. In fact, the United States Department of
Justice obtained the largest SCRA settlement as a result of Hurley. Senior attorneys at the Department of Justice
declared Hurley and his attorneys pioneers in this area of the law and because
of what they were able to accomplish - allowing the Department of Justice to
obtain justice for thousands of soldiers.
As a result of Hurley, the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act was
amended. These amendments are referred
to as the Hurley amendments. All of this
was fuel for Deutsche Bank defending its actions and trying to keep a lid on
the illegal violations they committed against United States soldiers. At one time, Deutsche Bank even filed for
sanctions against me.
What was it like
trying a case in federal court?
Federal
Judges are appointed for life. This
question reminds me of an old joke that I have heard told in various
forms. That is; upon entry into Heaven
one day, someone noticed that there was an interesting fellow walking around in
a black robe. Upon inquiry of another as
to who the gentleman was, the response was, “oh, don’t worry, that’s just
God. Some days he likes to pretend he’s
a federal judge.”
How did your
experience with the Hurley case change your opinion of the legal system in the
US?
Not for
the better. I have always been a firm
believer in that our system of government is the world’s best. The justice system, however, I believe has
been mostly ignored by society and our governmental leaders.
What’s the mission
behind the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (SCRA)?
The SCRA
has as its stated purpose from Congress, to secure the defensive needs of our
nation. The principles behind the SCRA
were formed before the founding of our nation when General George Washington
stated: “When we assume the solider, we did not lay aside the citizen.” These principles were expanded upon by
President Lincoln during the Civil War.
In 1917, the United States Congress passed, for the first time, the
Soldier’s and Sailor’s Civil Relief Act.
This Act protected our servicemembers throughout World War I,
World War II, Korea, Vietnam and the Gulf War.
In 2003, these protections were updated and re-named the Servicemembers
Civil Relief Act.
Upon enlistment, our servicemembers
sign a blank check payable to the United States of America up to and including
their life. The least we can do is what
President Lincoln recognized - if a servicemember can defend our
nation, they should be allowed to defend themselves back home, relating to civil
suits and claims made against them.
Simply put, if a servicemember is defending us, shouldn’t they be
allowed to defend themselves?
What does the SCRA
Foundation do? (How is it separate from the SCRA itself?)
We formed
the SCRA Foundation, Inc., in an effort to help the public, judges, lawyers and
military personnel recognize the rights and responsibilities associated with
the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act and what soldiers endure when they are
activated. I felt much of the problem in
the Hurley case was the need to educate our judiciary about what is contained
in the SCRA and its practical application.
Working with Western Michigan University Cooley Law School, the SCRA
Foundation, Inc., developed a Judge’s Guide to the SCRA and provided a copy to
every state, federal and tribal judge across the State of Michigan. The Foundation also provided a copy of the
Guide to hundreds of lawyers and military personnel. This project caught the attention of the
United States Army. They sought out our
partnership with Army OneSource to work with different law schools in each
state throughout our nation providing Judge’s Guides to judges, attorneys and
military personnel throughout the country.
It is my understanding it is quite a lucrative business model for lenders
to target United States Military personnel for extending loans and credit.
I recently
worked on an SCRA case for a captain in the United States Army. He was in default on his mortgage and on
active duty. Yet, his mortgage was
easily sold and acquired by someone seeking out this type of mortgage. Could you imagine making the business
decision to buy such a mortgage? Think
about how money is made in that type of transaction.
In your experience,
how do members of the US Armed Forces lose their homes?
As Sgt. Hurley's story indicates, thousands of servicemembers actually lost their homes
through illegal actions taken against them by financial institutions. Following the Hurley case, it is illegal, and
in complete contradiction of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act to exercise a
non-judicial foreclosure against someone on active duty military service. We know this happened to thousands of
servicemembers.
If
financial institutions would only follow the SCRA, it would work to their
benefit as well. Soldiers do not have their
debts forgiven. They are not allowed to
be irresponsible for their bills. The SCRA merely provides practical
protections that anyone would see as reasonable. For example, helping a soldier
on active duty in a war zone far from home to participate in the process.
This is
not a political issue; it is about being an American. The men and women serving and protecting our
nation are our country’s most precious asset.
The SCRA does not give them something for nothing; it merely helps them
balance their responsibilities as a servicemember with their obligations as a
citizen.
How big a problem is
foreclosure among veterans? Do you have a few tips as to how to avoid this?
I believe
our servicemembers are used to pulling up their boot straps and marching
forward. But many times this causes them
hesitation in seeking out help. Typically servicemembers are trained to take
responsibility for their actions, including their debts. When foreclosure occurs, sometimes the servicemember is simply willing to move forward and not protect their
self against violations. My specific tip
would be to seek out legal counsel right away.
Can you offer an update as to how Sgt. Hurley is doing today?
I would
encourage anyone who is interested in arts and crafts to check out Sgt.
Hurley’s website, Razor’s Edge. Sgt.
Hurley is a skilled craftsman and is
extremely talented with his engravings. If
you have the opportunity to read the book, A
Soldier’s Home, you will see that Sgt. Hurley is a man of incredible
character and fortitude. I continue to
admire how he has endured and has moved forward in such a positive manner.
Is there anything
else you’d like to mention?
Please
recognize the importance of our servicemembers serving on our behalf. Unfortunately, we live in a very violent and
adversarial world. It is the men and
women serving our nation that provide us with the freedom and ability to live
the lives that we do. If you have any
desire to provide assistance or learn more, please visit www.SCRAFoundation.org The Judge’s Guides can be found and
downloaded directly from the site.
You can check out A Soldier's Home here.
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